Hi Anna, yes, Im aware of that and thank you for shedding light on that for other readers. In this case, I dont believe it was incompetence alone. Is there much shareable knowledge about the gang in the area? Over 60% of the missing person cases involving foreigners in the Cancun area have not been solved according to a new report. I wondered if it was a mirror or piece of metal and her reflection. I hope justice is found for these girls, so very sad & just horrifying. Do you have any idea how many people of all ages go missing here every single day. On closer inspection this and the cave photo appear heavily manipulated. Daytime would be sweaty but what about at night when the temperature would be down in the 50-60s? In May, a 61-year-old American man went missing and was presumed to have gone overboard while on a cruise through the South Pacific, according to a report from the Australian Associated Press. But absolutely everything points to it being a case of underestimating the jungle and dying from exposure. Hi Oliver, I do believe that theres enough evidence to conclude that some of the photos were graphically edited (photoshopped) but I dont think this photo was manipulated. Cave photo: They should be alive and flourishing today. This lady, Pitti, she is under much suspicion as she practically botched the investigation efforts with her repeated lack of discipline in collecting and documenting and directing the case. He wants the gringos to go away and leave him in peace. I would certainly buy it if it had been printed in English. ), podran darnos explicaciones de la posicin del cuerpo, de las manos y la expresin del rostro en la foto 506. All facts are not available in this case. Im sure that when they left on that short hike that their intention was to be back home before dark and to be back to the host home for supper on time. From my understanding, there was no warning signs on the trail. Have you managed to obtain a copy? Kris has somewhat prominent cheeks and a full lower lip. Feel free to comment again or send me an email. Someone with darkish skin. And thinking its more possible that another person with a bleachbath and a Laptop/PC is wandering the jungle in Panama just shows me how little people nowadays know how dangerous the outdoors can be. Websites/blogs speculate about why, but nothing has been confirmed. However, calling emergency services doesnt require unlocking the phone, meaning a third party had to be involved. Could the red object be a bird? Celebrity. Its a complex topic. There are dead animals and skeletons strewn all across the ground. Also I wish we new more details on the phones. It was probably done by the perpetrators in order to collect the reward money. I think whoever was behind the (likely) murders wanted it to seem like they went missing due to being lost on the pianista trail. Is it possible that Kris and Lisanne reached this field with fencing (past the second stream crossing) and mistook this place to be a different entry to the farm areas which are closer to the trail head ? Dogs are very independent here. Hi Em, thank you. Thank you, and keep up the good work. This means either the user became incapacitated and was not operating the phone or was seriously confused. Yes, you are correct that numerous communities do work hard to bring criminals to justice. Its part of the relaxed culture. Debbie, I agree. It took us quite some time to get there.". Therefore, if Kris Kremers is normal and happy, as she appears to be in this photo (and in the other photos in the series), it means that things took a bad turn for them relatively soon after the photo above was taken. There were no signs at that time. Many of the leads were simply not followed fingerprints, interviewing key suspects, identifying the precise location where evidence was discovered, etc. Sheer incompetence. WHY? If someone died, you would certainly write, Body can be found at xyz.. She turns to talk Lisanna Please support us we cant do it without you. What is peculiar is that there were no attempts to contact anyone other than the emergency services. The search efforts moved into the forests where the young women traversed, using on-foot search teams and dog units. They protested in China - now they've gone missing. That said, even if there is a structure there, it has been made clear that there are a lot of trails on the other side of the El Mirador that are used by the indigenes, so it wouldnt be surprising to see indications of these areas being used. It would be interesting to see a map of possible mobile blackspots because it seems where ever they were IF STATIONARY then they were on the extreme edge or reception dependent on atmospherics. Too many coincidences. A table of photo data from their hike on El Pianista Trail: New Case Data: Timestamps Of Missing Daytime Photos. Experts proposed several theories about how and why the women took thesephotos. Where did u see that picture ? if both then was the other found in their room? Theres no denying that the face looks skewed and mask like. After a second look, I found that the Yahoo article specifically states that it was 17 foreigners belonging to another sect, but Yahoo was somewhat unclear Foreign can have a lot of meanings in this context. A year later, two tourists following the same trail are robbed at gunpoint. I am from Panama, and I know that there are way more dangerous drug and crime cartels active in remote parts of the country than officials want to admit to because the tourism would be affected. The land behind her is definitely at a higher level and could be rock. If they did, then Im wondering if the dog named Blue went with them or was allowed in the taxi. The mans face is clearly visible standing behind the rock with the red bags. Is this in dispute? This backpack suddenly showed up 2 months after the disappearing. In the end, maybe this photo has more information that was originally thought. More info here. This case has captivated me. Gangs usually just compete against each other and sometimes tourists are victims of opportunism or caught in the cross-fire. She is looking down to the left and appears to be shocked by what she sees. Also why did they go alone without a guide? Trust me, I prefer to take the easiest explanation too. And the police are not helping at all it seems to me that they want to destroy the investigation. Fortunately, theres a lot of work still underway from private investigators and researchers. So this photo may possibly offer more insight into the story. In fact, to bring a dog for a walk is less common in general, because most dogs are permitted to go outside anytime they want. Its difficult to see when glancing at the photo, because it looks like Kriss head is referencing something the ground. I noticed this too. He drowned a short time after. That looks kinda like a monster, Very interesting and thorough analysis. You can even see the smudges or blurring on the bottom of the plants into the dark areas in an attempt to blend the darkness area (where something or someone was likely standing). The circular part looks like vines to me, but the portion in the middle has potential to be a cow skull. Article about our trip plans: Research Team Update Support Us, Campaign Link: Mapping The Jungle Trails Of Panama. The 29-year-old from Stockport vanished on 14 August near a beauty spot in Panama. Im happy my work could shed some light on the possible items in the picture. Maybe the girls did perish deep in the jungle, but that doesnt rule out somebody causing them to get lost. This is the real one: While some believe Kris and Lisanne died in an accident, the ex-cop slammed the police investigation in Panama as shoddy and said it should be redone. If you follow down from the two red objects, there appears to be something that looks almost like blocks or siding shingles. They showed an incredibly brave independence which was repaid with murder. Thats just shadow that the camera didnt illuminate. There are shots of them exploring the jungle on April 1 which appear to show that all is well. I also live in a third-world country about which it was said that investigations were shut down, or botched, to protect the tourist industry. I can assure you that is nonsense. Im sitting here, with tears in my eyes and rolling down my cheeks.The transition from two weeks of lively holiday to stepping into the life of a real Panamanian family is just too much for me I want MOM and dad to hold me tight and tell me that everything will be alright I now feel like a small child of 2 yelling for her mother who is 2 meters away. The ambulatory friend began to assess how she might reach her friend, but underestimated the difficulty involved, thereby becoming less able to extricate herself from the jungle. Numerous families of disappeared family members have contacted me from my writing and the following is nearly always the sentiment they convey: Local authorities are unreliable, careless, slow to respond, even slower to take action, and they often hinder the familys own investigations. There is nothing ominous or cause for concern in this particular pic. The abductor did not take their things because hes not a thief. RIP sweet girls. Depending on how many mobile towers there are the police should have information. Hands tied behind her back, face looks a bit puffy too, as if been in an altercation of sorts. Around 2 oclock. 90% take place right here in the US in state parks. More probable is that the picture was deleted. I suspect the food may have been left with them when they were abandoned by drug traffickers (who initially abducted them on April 1st) after Kris was hurt crossing the monkey bridge. Ela est apavorada I was clearly kept elsewhere and planted later. Can anybody see that? As for the night pics Im going to also throw this one out there and say the photos were heavily darkened to take away what was really there in view and then the spotty weather areas were added over including the rain drops. Ive already researched a lot about the local conditions: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/02/kris-kremers-lisanne-froon-panama-bleached-bones/. I think the camera dried and started working again and they took pictures at night. On April 1, 2014, two students from the Netherlands namedLisanneFroon and Kris Kremers went on a hike in Panama with a dog. There is no question thats what it is. Looks like shes holding her hand up to shield her eyes. Their families believed the women were still in the unrecovered plane wreckage, and as the search stretched on for days and then weeks, they pleaded with the U.S. government for help they said never came. Looking carefully at her forehead you can see theres only the shade from a pole but her face is shaded. If a psychic reading leads to some legitimate form of tangible evidence and made public, then thats excellent, but otherwise I think its mostly a distraction. Thanks in advance! Were trying to raise $5,000 for gear, security, transportation and food. This tells me that they had a time in their minds of what time to leave to get back to their host home in Boquette. What people are mistaking as swelling of the right eye/cheek is simply the sunlight highlighting the contours of the right side of her face while the left side is in shadow, probably combined with squinting of the right eye due to the bright light. You mention the research team. Hi Justin, great work with sharpening this image. Many hikers from all over the world disappear, fall, or suffer other fatal accidents while traveling - this could've happened to these women as well. I think that Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon underestimated their surroundings and were ill prepared for this adventure. I lean towards the third-party theory although I recognize the conflicting aspects of that theory. Both of these photos were photoshopped! Perhaps incriminating photos existed on the camera before and new photos were taken to overwrite the cameras memory files, therefore preventing the old photos from being extracted from the cameras digital memory. All of it couldve just gone away.? incredibly complicated for a new story to be written. Is it possible that there is a building or some sort of structure behind the vegetation? And I think that sunlight she is trying t avoid also is the reason for her facial expression. Central America is notably inexpensive, free spirited, less commercialized and is typically hospitable to travelers, therefore many travelers from around the world seek these adventures. Thanks for some new information, excellent analysis of the photo! Is there somebody behind the insignia? Because of thedark, the pairmight have usedthe camera flash as a light sourceor to scare away animals. If there are documented river paths, this could be a way to find that exact same location. The predator is methodical. Basically, theres a lot of government corruption and poverty as a result. Could be leaves, I suppose, but to me it looks like someone is looking at the them from the vegetation. Perhaps every murder in the first world is resolved. We live in interesting times. Why IMG_0509 is missing, which could be a crucial piece of evidence, is an enigma. We have no police report to read which its self may also contain errors. The simplest explanations are most likely to be the correct explanations. ^ But the galvanized sign marking the terminus of the Pianista isnt really the end of the trail. In fact, theres a very obvious, albeit mud-choked, passage that goes down the other side of the crestonly to intersect with an entire web of paths constructed and used primarily by members of the indigenous Ngobe tribe. I think that this is definitely a murder, because of the rucksack. How close was this tribe to where they went missing? Returning the phones + money immediately made it look like they werent attacked for robbery. The camera and photos were tampered with with photos removed and other photos cropped and reduced in size. He has a reasonable explanation for why she is having to bend down, and he found video where you can see a turn to the left where kris is. Where did he leave them? I wanted to her a benefit of the doubt before I came across this article, yes she did mention red and black feathers on a piece of wood and turquoise pendant and a white mask. I wonder? Hi Chris, Very interested in your website! Nothing can explain the bones, the cut foot, their underwear in one of the backpacks. From January to October, 86 Navajo men and women have gone missing nationwide, said Meskee Yanabah Yatsayte, a missing-persons advocate for . PANAMA CITY BEACH Local officials agree that traffic is the No. Sue Borries and Debra Ann Velleman are pictured in undated composite image. They didnt take anything with them for more than 1 or 2 hours max journey. The blue thing on the ground looks like a blue tarp and that looks like a corner sticking out. That is why the poor often resort to vigilantism. He has a weapon like o jr t in his hands. Ive written about dozens of stories involving incompetence of law enforcement in disappearance cases. I dont know what Chris means by this, but at first I thought it was a wooden post sticking up from the ground and painted white at the top. Sorry to send so many messages Chris, but as a policewoman I have never liked to give up on a case.. Hello If I saw a cow skull hanging in a tree I would get the hell out of there, not pose for a photo. Its thought that Kremers and Froon were exploring nature without anyone else around. On April 1, the 21-year-old and 22-year-old went for a walk through the scenic forests around the Baru Volcano in Boquete. The girls took photos of so many things, even many mundane thingsbut for some reason the dog wasnt present in any of the photos. However, regarding Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, Id need to know more about their personality to make this determination. I read that the backpack belonged to Lisanne Froon. There are vast cultural differences to account for, especially between men and women. Is it a reasonable number? Regarding the photos, I have no idea why they would be taking these, deleted some later and left this one, especially since the ribbed roofing structure is somewhat obvious. Thorough job, very insightful and so well done Please visit Panama and further investigate. What is that clear brown glass-looking circle in the upper righthand corner? Aside from the various graffiti markings, the one thing that looks potentially creepy is the circular, hanging object. First calls at 16:39 then nothing again for 14 hours? Whatever happened I believe was not from a man following them. Tourism in Panama represents one of Panama's main activities. Would the girls really be so far apart in dense jungle? She uses Kris phone, instinctively entering her own pin number. I posted a link at Koude Kas of example of Monkeys playing with phones because they were entranced by the flash. Some suggest that they could they have seen something that they didnt want the rest of the world to see. Much, much more revealing. But without DNA samples, finger prints, etc, its hard to prove anything. Fearing that these two strangers may bring the wrath of God upon him, he releases them into the jungle. Also there is a consistency to the timing of SOS attempts occurring two times each day +/ a few minutes of the exact same time. On one website, almost every user is convinced, that all the daylight pictures were photoshopped, even this one here, No.505. Once they examined the phones, investigators unraveled a confusing and grim timeline. Debra Ann Velleman, 70, of Waukesha, Wisconsin, and Sue Borries, 57, of Teutopolis, Illinois, both retired public school teachers, were part of a community of snowbirds and expats living in the area of Chame, Panama. The rock in the riverbed is very distinctive was this location ever found and explored? Especially the one where Kris is holding a water bottle 30-40ft from the photo-taker. They maintained a great deal of secrecy and privacy and never officially published any information. Like so many other people I really, really wish we could find the answers to this mystery. Slight left and up from the girl. I think this has been added to hide the fact that Kris was not wearing boots, as this was a shot of her from somewhere else and superimposed on the jungle scene. scary Her hair is also too clean and shiny for someone who has been out in the jungle for 8 days. Yes, I think its the entrance to a short cave. I was definitely thinking it looks like her hands might be tied behind her back here. one girl got hurt, i think in the fall the camera got wet and bumped. You can see a kind of nose and lips. Several of the relatives and friends of those visitors to the Quintana Roo who went missing formed a group named "Truth, Memory, and Justice" in an attempt to . "Tourism contributes 10% to EU GDP and creates jobs for 26 million people," notes the European Union Tourism Trends report. I upscaled that image with AI correction and its 100x more clear that there is obviously a trap or makeshift roofing above her. I believe that the case was handled so poorly that it leads one to believe that it was intentionally handled as such. Keep the ideas flowing guys. The ground is littered with leaves, twigs, and stones. The last half either had a wrong password, or simply no password at all was entered. Make sure you contact someone with this info. If Kris were injured and they couldnt use the phone, then why didnt Lisanne go get help? It even appears they have some kind tattoo on their back. Regarding accidents (My father a doctor always said accidents do not exist. Theyd probably just bury the camera in a deep hole or toss it in the river or ocean. For further details of our complaints policy and to make a complaint please click this link: thesun.co.uk/editorial-complaints/, The girls saved up for six months for the trip to Panama, One of the last pictures taken on a camera belonging to one of the girls, The contents of a backpack found near a river and handed in by a local woman, A foot was found still inside a boot two months after the girls vanished, Photos released from the camera showed some of the girl's belongings scattered around the rocks, And one image appears to show the back of Kris's head - possibly with blood around the bottom of her hair, Chilling photos found on missing hikers camera show mysterious final moments before girls vanished in Panama jungle, Headteacher sacked 'after sending parents a list of striking teachers' as school launches probe, Isle of Innisfree ferry: Blaze breaks out on boat carrying 183 people in English Channel as lifeboats scramble to scene. The red is the sunlight shining through the dead curled leaves. I dont know if youve noticed this or not. Be careful. The night picture she is standing in same spot and someone is doing something to her lower leg or foot ,you can see them under her. Also, I do not know about the girls living situation and the relationship between the girls and the owner. It isnt a cave, somebody has shown in a youtube video that it us just a very deep path on the wrong side of the mountain with a sharp turn. Forced disappearance. Jane, Recently I have been reading that it is not unusual for people that hike or run in dangerous places and go missing that a shoe with a foot is found. Another thing that crossed my mind is what if the backpack & items had been kept as like a trophy of the killings, & a local knew thats what it was aware of the incident & grabbed it & left it somewhere to be found to try & help shed light on the case the best way they could. It is extremely easy to photoshop a photo once it has been darkened. Use soft language and leave out gory visuals in what you write. Most disappearance cases dont get such publicity, so you can imagine how much less effort goes into them. She turned around and they snapped a photo. I am assuming that the rock painting you refer to is the round orange patch on the right. The camera could have malfunctioned but this seem highly unlikely. She clearly thinks shes found something amazing. No chance. Thats suspicious and leads me to question if government was involved to some degree. I was surprised to learn that. You can even see the shadow of her han on her face. Also mobile signals are better at night yet no calls were attempted. After exhaustive thought, my theory: First, respect to family, friends, and the good. Cats are often seen as pests and scavengers which is unfortunately why many people use poison to kill local cats. https://postimg.cc/94q0cVhH. Kris is sticking her tongue out in this photo. Kris walks down the ravine and bends over to examine orange graffiti After taking a deep dive into all the evidence and flying out to Panama to do their own investigation, the pair concluded that the girls' deaths were an accident. Im very impressed. I did not cover all of the accidents and trials and tribulations along the way leading to their death.Jim. Why did he leave them? And more on this most people in Latin America that permit their dog to walk freely do not keep track of where their dog goes. Yup, I toot checked and her video came only after this post. Theres a lot more information needed to make conclusions. Once there, the families and detectives began a massive search. That is EXACTLY what it looks like to me! Also, aserial killer might have stalkedtheir area at the time. I would think they had to be pretty far into the jungle to have come across that slat roof structure. Might look harmless and untouched which is why she is standing so close but then she is either caught or trapped in a booby trap lol. Loads of speculations as to why they didnt leave messages to their families. The smooth rocks would further back that theory up and the blue trash could have just washed up thereperhaps. I dont appreciate the internet trolls who dump havoc on peoples insights. She does look slightly uneasy but I just think it was a photo she wasnt expecting. Its possible theres a painted insignia on the post to right of Kris. because why else would they have continued access to their phones for the next week? The sun is shining right into her eyes so shes squinting and bending down a bit to see her friend, who was probably talking to her while snapping the photo. Notice how Juan has actively injected false information into the public investigation, including a picture of 4 people standing in a pond with heavily photo edited faces (one of them has their head moved off of the neck in a very obvious edit). Its part of life in the countryside and small towns. Local authorities dont often feel a sense of responsibility to victims and their families. The girls phone records later showed that they started making their initial distress calls on their cell phones approximately 2 hours and 45 minutes after their last known daytime photo (Photo 508). It holds a bad energy. Despite search teams, which included dogs and. A priest of sorts. Excellent editing work, thanks to Justin. And two months later, a pelvic bone and a foot - still inside a boot - were found in the same area, according to La Estrella de Panama. This was cleverly planned, and the murderer(s) have done this before. Latin America has tens of thousands of small communities, all of which operate slightly differently to some degree. The hanging object and other points of interest you highlighted reminded me of this. Theres so much conflicting information regardless of which theory is chosen. If so, they may have wandered across the field looking for the original path back and got themselves well and truly lost. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22, were hiking near the town of. ABC News had previously reached out to the U.S. Embassy in Panama for comment but did not receive a response. I was looking at the photographs again and something caught my eye. So many clues in all these pictures. For a monster (him or them) this was enjoyment. Here is the comparison: Hundreds! The plane was located with the help of Bruce's Legacy, as well as a local family whose boats were used in the mission, Lewitinn said. I dont understand the question. Any idea of the exact location where this picture is taken? Constance Marten seen leaving court after appearing before magistrates charged with manslaughter of baby, Constance Marten and Mark Gordon blow each other a kiss in dock before court hears dead baby was found in bag in shed, Mum identified after dead baby is found on Canford Heath, Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO). All items were in one place at this point, and together the elements and biology dispersed them and kept some for the jungle. For more background and insight, please feel free to read some of the disappearance stories Ive written about: https://imperfectplan.com/disappearances/. My husband is a mountain climber and when hes out, the mountain rescue flys multiple times a day because hikers overestimate their abilities in the german Alps, not anywhere in the jungle. Those two women were wearing very little clothing to be entering bush/jungle, there is no way that theyd easily make their way through vegetation, and, as they were clearly intelligent, why would they voluntarily just walk into dense bush?
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