He got screwed over so badly by the seminar powers that be I still want to cave Duane Smothermans head in with my fist when I think about what they did to him. The surrounding mountain ranges and plains offer great hunting opportunities for healthy herds of elk, antelope, Whitetail and Mule deer. Oh yeah, and every time I hear the song time after time I want to throw up until every blood vessel in my eyes have exploded! If you talked in line it was a T.O.S. I owe my life to him. Hi, I was in Serenity 2001-2003 as well. he would just gripe and gripe and poor me and SHUT THE FUCK UP! I do feel like I have this dark past that nobody really understands though If anyone remembers me you can reach out, I have a really bad memory and struggle because my coping mechanism is to block things out. All the brainwashed nitwits tattling on family moms who broke the rules and were just trying to make our time a little more pleasurable. Just brutal. I kept in touch with Henry a bit. We hung out once in Dallas. The Counselors who had no degrees were simply misfits from society who had no where else to go, One of tre counselors had gone through the program himself and was offered a job with no degree. Think again. Life is good. Stephanie i was also in serenity in 99 but later after failed attempts by staff to force me to move up in levels like 3allstar i was transferred to the new family destiny they built above the junior staff cabins. I wonder if the place is for sale? Nick I was there the same time. Ithink I remember you felecia. I was 18 in may of 02 so I was just going to take my exit. Its crazyIm 34 nowand still, I remember these things. Keep posting I want more stories. If you would participate in our goal of shutting these places down for good, you will be helping your daughter and thousands more like her. i tried to run away once, but it was just with one other girl. Ranch real estate in the beautiful state of Montana can be purchased near Big Sky, Bozeman, Livingston, Big Timber and Whitefish. Finally someone that will help us survivors. No wonder you enjoyed your time there. I think he walked out. Did yall REEEEALLY need that 15 foot high pile of rocks moved to left ten feet? They are trying to lease the old Diamond Ranch property, but it seems that they are broke. We had such a bad reputation that Cameron forced us to rename the family in an attempt to get a fresh start. The 3 day seminars way in the back of the woods is something that i will never forget. Damn that was a long ass run through a dark ass forest Didnt make it down the hill until sun started coming up. Because when I got home from spring Creek I lost a huge part of my identity I didnt have that free spirit that I had I didnt really fit in with my lifelong friends in the same way. 3,190 +/- Deeded Acres. I can remember countless times when they would needlessly call for support staff and watch as 6 male staff pinned me to the ground. Im sad to see you have adopted the all-too-familiar attitude that Im okay with how i was treated, so everyone else ought to be okay with it too or I wasnt abused (or dont realize i was abused), so no one else was either. Unfortunately, this type of intolerant, attacking attitude so reminiscent of Stockholm Syndrome is something survivors suffer from, often for years, before they suddenly and sometimes traumatically realize the full scope of what happened to them. if anyone out there remebers me email me I would like to hook up with some of you guys. Those staff members look like pigs in man suits.they clearly belong in hell. What I went through in Jamaica is so similar. I wish I had the parenting knowledge I have now before I sent her to Spring Creek. We planned it last second coming back from eating and we said right before we go back in this building were going to take off for the mountain. Know as well that I would do anything for you bro. Your story of me running away and stealing a boat was true but that was my first attempt. I would ask to go to the Hobbit every time a seminar came up. It seemed like you could be addicted to anything. www.ranchflip.com is using a security service for protection against online attacks. Most people here have bfs/gfs and leaving their IG handle and e-mail. I will be glad to put you in contact with my son so you can discuss with him directly. Its productive waters located in the heart of Paradise Valley draw anglers from far and wide. One would think anyone would understand the backlash of that move, Mike was awesome, and from what I know he was not there at the end I believe he had moved onbut I graduated in 2001 and am nor fully sure. WINTER FUCKING IN MONTANA! Do you have any idea where they could have taken her? I promised my daughter that I would bring her home as soon as she completed her schooling. But Thirteen was the wrong move. I was at Spring Creek Lodge Academy from March 2001 till May 2003. Hey. Apparently he is taking Narvins (what a nameonly a backwards inbred banjo playing hicks would name their son Narvin) place as Narvin has had too many run ins with the law. They were housed opposite side of honor right? We were in incredible shape at this point being near 16 and they had given us real camp food again since we werent in the desert. Mikes suggestions. if so i remember when they moved him.. I am not so sure this is actually a survivor sounds more like a former staff member to me. Spring Creek Campground and Trout Ranch 257 Main Boulder Road , Big Timber, MT 59011 Sold RV Park/Campground Details Purchase Method: Cash, New Loan Property ID: 1547446 Posted On: Nov 5, 2021 Updated On: Dec 30, 2022 Property Description Sick shit man. Lol. We hung out when I was living up in Northern California for a while. All mineral and water rights owned by the seller will convey with purchase. She hated me so much when my mom finally pulled me outta there she didnt even come to say by. Whats up everyone. Spring Creek Campground & Trout Ranch Family Fun & Relaxation 257 Main Boulder Road (Hwy 298 S Mi 2.5 ) Big Timber, MT 59011 I www.springcreekcampground.com Reservations: 406-932-4387 Sweet. The best spring creek fishing in Montana Our world famous spring creek is one of the most sought after destinations by fly fishermen anywhere in the world. WWASP Survivors is run by a dedicated group of concerned alumni of WWASP-affiliated programs. REDFIN IS COMMITTED TO AND ABIDES BY THE FAIR HOUSING ACT AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY ACT. I also forgive my daughter for her choices/actions that resulted in her stay at Spring Creek. That was the highlight of my day.meanwhile all of this is heel to toe no talking ECT ECT. I told her to stay strong, do her best and to look around her and find strength in nature and what she sees around her. Not all locations fish well every month but there is always something peaking on any given week. I was in Courage family with him when I first went to SCL. I got trench foot which screwed me for life. Id like all of u to realize if you got sent here its your own doing. Whats up everyone. Laramie, Wyoming (Albany County) $1,550,000 Sold. The selection consisted mainly of Goosebumps and other preteen literature. Nestled around the 330-acre Jack Nicklaus Signature Golf Course in the area's best rural reserve area. I was at Spring. I lived in the 18 trailer for a good bit of the entire program and also spent a few months living in the upper level cabins just off campus. They said it was part of my image or something like that. I was 15. I was being starved, robbed and abused at home from a mother suffering from narcissism and munchausers syndrome. I think I remember Eugene because he had a hearing aid that he used to let me wear for fun, and he was an awesome kid from California, too. Susan I was in springcreek from 1999to 2000. 2015 O'Hair Ranch / Armstrong Spring Creek, Quality Spring Creek fishing in Paradise Valley, Livingston, Montana for over 60 years, 2015 O'Hair Ranch / Armstrong Spring Creek. So I began to wkrk my way out. Continue to be happy, take care of the young ones and the wife, and be thankful. I simply went looking for updates on Spring Creek and was shocked to find this. I have a friend in one of these facilities and was told something about a think bed. Does anyone know what this is or could tell me? Other improvements include a 1,200 sqft barn, a small functional fly shop, and many outbuildings for ATVs and other recreational items. I fought it at first because I saw how ridiculous it was. Linderman was not in the same league of evil. I was there when karylie commited suiside it was a crazy time ! And SO confident and funny, where all the rest of us were terrified and broken down. Now, im a 30 year old man.31 in 2 months and to this day (13 years later) I plan to go back and visit. I always felt like she wanted me to fail. Yes, I was 16, doing some recreational drug use, maybe a little overboard with the speed, esp so young but whatever,but when i got out i moved out of my parents house, bounced around, no real address for a few years, and was mainlining by the time i was 18. after getting in some trouble, i got out of all of that. Anyone who remembers me please reach out. I can relate to everyone here in this page and I can feel your pain. Of course you cant find golf balls in the woods! You can do this anonymously if you choose. Most did in one way or another. Options include all inclusive fishing lodges, convenient hotel packages and unique river front vacation cabins and homes. Was there until 2001. Yeah you must be a staff member hahahahaha. Dont remember fight with dignity. Dude you were one of the first ones, and I heard stories about how much worse it was before I got there. Getting into fights. I was there from fall of 01-March of 02. Bye. Because your pretty much teaching yourself. I begged for help and they wouldnt help me. I was switch after maybe 1 day, if my memory serves me correct to Dignity. ;-p. Yeh like Waddup? We used the phone in there and when they got the phone bill we were caught. I agree I have no bad memories. Id love to find more of you and preferably more optimistic but I fully understand if bad experiences happened. Production for "Rust" will move to Montana when it resumes more than a year after the fatal on-set shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, producers said Wednesday. Our HS transcripts do not exist. Can you imagine what a disaster that wouldve been. Be happy, you deserve it. He was at Spring creek from when he was 16-18 years old. If that doesnt sum up their bullshit in one sentence I would like to know what does. Still havent heard from him love to find him one day he was a good partner. Hugged, laughed and cried. And as trainer I nearly became corrupt as the staff at first. I am totally against peer on peer displine because upper level assholes are corrupt as hell. It talking to my parents I watched countless times as fellow students were beat and neglected in the hobbit there was one student who they sent to the hobbit every day I hope the kids who were abused win there case if this place was still open I would run up in that camp and take shit over, I was in Thompson falls in 2003 when I was 16 I was taken in the nigh and spent 4 months. i wish you all good luck and lots off love. Considered one of the finest luxury equine ranches in the West, Western Ranch Brokers is honored to have represented Copper Spring Ranch as part of an off-market transaction. looking back the place cracks me up. isnt it funny how some guy would be support staff one day and then hes your teacher the next day. But at the same time I didnt go out of my way to try to ruin anything for the rest of my family.once they brought us down to do those crazy ceromony things I cant even remember what there called because I left after the first day. I wish I was as brave as you. All my questions were answered after a few nights of internet research. When I came home I had a contract and was a completely different person only like 20-30lbs heavier. Do you remember me? Im so glad that the TV show that was supposed to be based on SCL and Mike Linderman didnt take off. Sold: Vacant land located at 25 South Fifty One Ranch Dr Lot B-4, Townsend, MT 59644 sold on May 18, 2022. I have night mares still as well fuck I am 30 years old now and still cant get past my time spent there. Black cloud for 2 weeks before PC3 for that little stunt. As I read everyones comments about their experiences my heart truly aches for all of you. They made me burn all of my cothes so I had nothing. She looked at me and she looked away. I never saw the man so quiet and he just looked at me in horror and disbelief at the things I told him. My bad. I found out yesterday chaffin was arrested as a child molester for having sex with one of the girls in the program. .. my heart breaks that she felt no way out but she didnt have a way out. Not remembering Corwin would be like not remembering big mike from Excel. Just listen to what she has to say and let her know that you are aware of the treachery of WWASPs as a business and the individuals who received a paycheck from them. The reinforcement system was not logical- it mainly made us believe wed never get out. Find out if there are any available rods on the day you want to fish! Mike, Im pretty sure I was there with you.